Julie Nelson and the romantic belief in knowledge from a perspective-free viewpoint; the interaction of eros, heart-mind-soul and the conceptual framework; the characteristic of soulfulness; Jack Kornfield on an approach to images in psychedelic experience: how that differs from imaginal practice; working with characteristics that may not be present; other characteristics: the lattice, grace, trust, reverence, humility, values, beauty, duty, fulness of intention, participation; imaginal views of oneself; WH Auden and Henry Corbin; caution on talking about images with others; the six devas on Lantau Island, what they represent, and how they could be related to.